Project Scrambled

[MTNXJ]

How much coin did you have to drop on that? Nice find.

[bbaCJ8]

$5500.....pretty damn good considering what else I looked at.



Worst part about it is that it's from Hudson, WI....same town as James. I bought a cowfukker Jeep.

[Timmay]

It's never going to run again.

[bbaCJ8]

Originally Posted by Timmay

It's never going to run again.

I've got the nice new wiring harness sitting in the back ready to start routing/planning/installing. Unlike James, I have the willpower to deal with wiring BS, and my dad is sure to be helpful where I get stuck on it. It'll be a PITA as with any electrical system, but it WILL run. While unloading all the various crap I took a look at the carb for a few minutes and decided I really don't feel like dealing with that BS. I may be making a call to Howell before things go too much further

I've also been thinking about the suspension. By the time I get together a nice set of leafs, get em mounted, and put together a set of traction bars it'll be approaching the cost of a coil conversion. Might as well do it right the first time....


Oh lord....it's already getting outta hand.

[6DoF]

Originally Posted by bbaXJ

Oh lord....it's already getting outta hand.

i called that one before you ever picked the thing up

[zjwrekkr]

so much for saving up a down payment on the house, must be nice to live with your parents.

[bbaCJ8]

Originally Posted by jeepnski

i called that one before you ever picked the thing up

And I knew better than to ever deny it

Originally Posted by zjwrekkr

so much for saving up a down payment on the house, must be nice to live with your parents.

Nah, I'll still be saving, just not as much and not as quickly. Between the market here and what I've learned recently, it won't be a problem. The housing market is crazy bad....foreclosures everywhere, costs dropping, etc, etc. I should have no trouble finding a house that'll suit my needs for $50k less than I would've several years ago. I've had quite a few friends getting places lately with little to no downpayment(and I'll still have a reasonable one) and prices still aren't bad at all. I've thought about all that and I'll still be ok.
I have 2 major justifications to myself for doing this. First is that it's my one big hobby and it's what I love to do. This is the best chance I'll probably ever have to do it, so I am. You only live once, might as well enjoy it....there are much worse things I could be doing with the money. Second is that most people graduate from college with a sh1tbox car, get a job, and buy a new car. I got a nice truck while in college, have it almost paid off, and will continue driving it for a while. My 'new car' is a built up Jeep. It's my graduation present to myself....I feel like I earned it after all that work, it's within my means, it's what I love to do, so I'm doing it. Yeah, there are better ways I could be investing the money, but it's a hobby and a passion, not an investment. I do plan for it to be around for a LONG time though. I have every intention of having a rear childseat in this thing some day....teaching my kid to drive offroad in it, going on family trips to prime wheeling spots, etc.

[VTJeepCJ84]

Originally Posted by bbaXJ

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I've also been thinking about the suspension. By the time I get together a nice set of leafs, get em mounted, and put together a set of traction bars it'll be approaching the cost of a coil conversion. Might as well do it right the first time....

Thats why i linked mine, by the time i got new rear springs, and a good traction bar, i was at the same price as the link set up. i used bushings at 1 end and used springs at the time to save money, but i was a poor college student at the time.

[bbaCJ8]

Originally Posted by VTJeepCJ84

Thats why i linked mine, by the time i got new rear springs, and a good traction bar, i was at the same price as the link set up. i used bushings at 1 end and used springs at the time to save money, but i was a poor college student at the time.

I'll probably use bushings at one end too....I don't really see a reason for Johnny Joints at both ends. There will be plenty of travel with one per link even for super flexy suspensions....I want mine nice and flexy, but I don't want anything ridiculous. Stability>Excessive travel

[VTJeepCJ84]

having run it both ways, bushings at one end and heims at both, i see no noticable difference in flex, i did heims at both ends mostly for ease of adjustailty. bushings should take some of the vibrations out too, my jeep is a bad platform to test that theory on. i'd go bushings on one end on something that is going to be driven on the road a lot.

[bbaCJ8]

Exactly my reasoning. The cheaper cost is just an added bonus. I figure I'll do fixed poly bushings at one end of each link, and forged Johnny Joints with shanks at the other end. Of course as with anything on this build it's subject to change, but that's a given.

My shifter came today. B&M Starshifter. Got it brand new for $100 shipped so I couldn't pass that up. I love hammerin through the gears on those things without worrying about hitting the lever too far. Put one in the Chevelle 6+ years ago and have been dying to put em in a rig ever since....but both I've had since have electronic sh1t.

[bbaCJ8]

Oh, and I'm sad cuz neither Phat nor Dub have commented on my new acquisition.











Asssholes

[Timmay]

:emo:

[bbaCJ8]

:slitswristsforattention:

[xj_man_646]

i went to pick up the wiring harness for my jeep in hopes of working on it this weekend.

wrong one. guy couldn't find the right one in the computer.




it will probably end up costing over 600 dollars for the wiring...the 130 dollar one was a total of 4 wires.

[bbaCJ8]

Want the stock one from my Scrambler? $500 to your door

[impeesia]

i dont know how i missed this

looks like its gonna be a sweet project sean

[6DoF]

check these dude

http://suicidedoors.com/Adjustable4-...erkFitting.php

[bbaCJ8]

Originally Posted by jeepnski

check these dude

http://suicidedoors.com/Adjustable4-...erkFitting.php

Not bad....although I'm contemplating just going for adjustable on one end since I've seen quite a few peoples' links loosen up from jam nuts loosening, tires rubbing the arm and causing it to loosen up the nuts, etc. Still plenty of time to decide what to do. Those would even work great for the axle end of traction bars to account for pinion angle and slight wheelbase changes.

[COXJ94]

just saw this thread, and I have to say, I'm VERY impressed! Nice find...

Gosh...if only I could have a Scramblor! :sigh: one of these days.....DAMN WEDDING!

[Timmay]

Originally Posted by bbaXJ

Not bad....although I'm contemplating just going for adjustable on one end since I've seen quite a few peoples' links loosen up from jam nuts loosening, tires rubbing the arm and causing it to loosen up the nuts, etc. Still plenty of time to decide what to do. Those would even work great for the axle end of traction bars to account for pinion angle and slight wheelbase changes.

orly? Where do you think he got that link.

[bbaCJ8]

That's what TimmayPhab is usin, eh? Guess I'll scratch that idea. I don't wanna share any parts with Captain Janksalot.

[Timmay]

Actually just the bushing and sleeve kit. I don't need no adjustments.

[xj_man_646]

of course not. timmay phab good.

[bbaCJ8]

Originally Posted by xj_man_646

of course not. timmay phab good.

Wanna come over this weekend and help me wire the Jeep?

[bbaCJ8]

I've still been playing with Scrambler ideas and coming up with more sh1t. I'm debating whether or not to go as big as 41s. I plan to drive this thing on the street a lot and want it to be enjoyable, but I'm worried that'll be too far...but I do want it big, just cuz I can. Let's face it, stock Scramblers look downright goofy. Once on 35s they start lookin cool. I could keep it mild on 35s and have it look pretty good, throw 37s or 38s on it and have it look really good and beasty, or go all the way to 41s and have a just plain huge Scrambler that looks badasss but may sacrifice driveability.
I had a few pics of the Scrambler I originally tried to buy, which is actually the one that made me decide to get one. I believe it's running SOA with 4" leafs out back and 2" up front. It's too tall for 35s, but still looks damn good. Anyway, I took those pics, figured out the ratio of 35s to 41s, and did a couple halfasss chops just to see how it'd look at that height with those tires. Figured I'd post em here for sh1ts and giggles. Don't bother reminding me they're horrible chops, I did em in 2 minutes with Microsoft Paint

How it looks now:

My rendition:


How it looks now:

My rendition:


Whadya think?

[h_2_o]

unless you are going to chop the living h*ll out of it with the sawzall it looks like a bad idea.

[VTJeepCJ84]

i think 37-38's would be a good comprimise. still be damn cabable. that tire size with the same amount of lift that matt's jeep has i think would be good.

[bbaCJ8]

The front will become tube fenders that I plan to build for high clearance and the rear will be cut to the body line just outside the flare.

[bbaCJ8]

Here's a nice one on 39.5 IROKs.....I think it looks badasss, and would obviously function just as well if built right.


I'll be going 1 tons on this thing(why spend the money on axles twice?), and 37s or 38s would be underkill....not that it wouldn't work. Just for reference, 37x12.5R17 IROK radials weigh 81 lbs, 41x14.5R17s weigh 101 lbs, 38x14.5R16 Toyo MTs weigh 98 lbs, etc. I dunno. If I don't go big I'll wish I had and end up spending extra money to get there.....but that's certainly not the most logical way to do things. But the whole point of this is a cool toy, not a logical DD or something. Just don't wanna build it so big that I don't like driving it, or that I can't get in and out in work clothes.

[Gabe Watt]

go 39.5 iroks like vetteboy, i think is a decent compromise.

[zeede]

Originally Posted by bbaXJ

Here's a nice one on 39.5 IROKs.....I think it looks badasss, and would obviously function just as well if built right.

Nice spare.

[Dennis]

I know you want to get rid of the hardtop, but I can tell you that with the fiberglass body, they really help with keeping things ridged and help eliminate the feeling that the body is going to fall apart on you.

[xj_man_646]

Originally Posted by bbaXJ

Wanna come over this weekend and help me wire the Jeep?

sure, if you pay for my fuel, ferry cost, food, and i get a place to sleep

[bbaCJ8]

Originally Posted by Dennis

I know you want to get rid of the hardtop, but I can tell you that with the fiberglass body, they really help with keeping things ridged and help eliminate the feeling that the body is going to fall apart on you.

The top is going away....and it will be getting a serious cage which will be tied into the frame and do a ton to stiffen things up. Rigidity won't be a problem for this thing. It'll still have a halfcab hardtop when the weather is bad.

Originally Posted by xj_man_646

sure, if you pay for my fuel, ferry cost, food, and i get a place to sleep

Or I could walk out to the garage, cut 5 random wires in half, piss down the intake, pull the oilpan and a maincap to check the main bearings, see exposed copper, decide to run it anyway, then never have it run again. First I should remove .018" of shims from the front end just cuz I don't feel like running them. It'd be cheaper than having you come out but just as productive.