Project Scrambled - Page 4

Gabe Watt · 08-10-2007, 08:09 AM

BOHICA

xj_man_646 · 08-10-2007, 08:10 AM

lol. i'd say add 30% for the random BS.

your wallet will hate you for a long, long time. bye bye house down payment?!?!?!!11one

bbaCJ8 · 08-10-2007, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by xj_man_646

lol. i'd say add 30% for the random BS.

your wallet will hate you for a long, long time. bye bye house down payment?!?!?!!11one

I know....I'm the one who gave you that figure when you were contemplating building a TJ, remember?

This build may have to take longer than I'd like.....or I may have to settle for cheaper parts here and there, such as the 1 tons with 4.56s I just PMed Cobound about.

xj_man_646 · 08-10-2007, 09:34 AM

I could get them for you too...he is a mere couple hours from me

bbaCJ8 · 08-10-2007, 09:43 AM

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I could get them for you too...he is a mere couple hours from me

That'd be cool, but I doubt you'll be around these parts anytime soon. Could you by chance take them down to Peoria for me?

xj_man_646 · 08-10-2007, 02:07 PM

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That'd be cool, but I doubt you'll be around these parts anytime soon. Could you by chance take them down to Peoria for me?

if you get your ass in gear and get them boughted

bbaCJ8 · 08-10-2007, 02:47 PM

He hasn't respondedededed.

xj_man_646 · 08-10-2007, 02:49 PM

oh reallyded/ why not?

Wally · 08-10-2007, 05:50 PM

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Got any pics of your rig back when you ran the H2s handy? Some various angles would be nice

OF COURSE

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What did you learn with the Dodge/Chevy 60 thing? I imagine for you the low pinion caused problems, but anything else you didn't like? External vs internal hubs, etc. .... If you don't mind listing off random do's and don'ts, likes and dislikes about the front 60s that'd be cool.

Here's the main issues i had:
- Hub design. The Dodge external hub has only mile marker and superwinch for aftermarket support, both of which are extremely weak. I broke over 8 super winch hubs, a good portion of them from nothing other than torque, while the others ended up getting thrashed by hitting rocks. The Dodge external hub sticks out 1-1/2" farther than a chevy lock out with Tera hubs. In addition, the only option you have should you decide to go 35 spline is to either run drive flanges, or replace the hub, rotor, stub, and lock out, which anyway you slice it is roughly $800 give or take.

- Caster/Pinion angle. The dodge comes with approx 6* of caster and a 0* pinion angle, while the chevy has roughly 6* of caster with 4* pinion angle. The issues i encountered are this. In order to keep the driveshaft from binding up against the pinion yoke, i had to run 6* shims in the front of the dodge to get a 6* pinion angle, resulting in AWFUL road manners. With the chevy i was able to run 2* shims, to achieve the same pinion angle and still have great road manners. With a 6* pinion angle set up 1" SOA springs with a SRS, i bound up the driveshaft against the yoke hard enough to puke a cap 2-3 times in 3 years. Most notably at EJS last year where i ended up taking out a 35 spline 70 shaft in the rear because i was in such a bad spot when it broke

In addtion to the bad angle, i went through 3 seperate front driveshafts before giving up and just welding together a super stout .25 wall DOM tube for a shaft and just let it get bent when it hit rocks. I must have put 5 or 6 different yokes on the front end cause the pinion had a thing for finding rocks and hanging me up then shredding the ubolts.

4Lo · 08-10-2007, 06:02 PM

Backspacing > my dick = :ghey:

nblehm · 08-10-2007, 06:06 PM

I dont think they make 1" backspaced wheels

4Lo · 08-10-2007, 06:07 PM

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I dont think they make 1" backspaced wheels

TrailReadys FTW. 2.5".

bbaCJ8 · 08-10-2007, 06:09 PM

Thanks Wally. I'm looking at a Chevy right now, but we'll see what happens there. I'd like a decent pinion angle while still maintaining good road manners, so that sounds like the way to go.

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Backspacing > my dick = :ghey:

So in order to be straight I have to recenter my wheels to 1/2" from the inner bead?

4Lo · 08-10-2007, 06:14 PM

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So in order to be straight I have to recenter my wheels to 1/2" from the inner bead?

If that's how big you ordered your strap-on

bbaCJ8 · 08-10-2007, 08:32 PM

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If that's how big you ordered your strap-on

Like you don't know.....

bbaCJ8 · 08-14-2007, 01:10 PM

I had a little free time last night so I figured I'd see what my spare 35s look like on it. The front wheels don't clear the hubs, but you get the idea:

Here's what the final width will be with an SRW60, H2s, and 14.5 wide tires. Not too shabby. The actual tires will be 6" taller and stick another 2" inward, but still a decent visual:

And I fukked up my back doing it. I feel old.

xj_man_646 · 08-14-2007, 02:19 PM

nice double post, old man homosexual billy bad ass wannabe

JeepXJ3 · 08-14-2007, 02:53 PM

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nice double post, old man homosexual billy bad ass wannabe

You can blame it on the slow azzzz server

Timmay · 08-14-2007, 03:59 PM

4 pages and no progress. Awesome.

bbaCJ8 · 08-14-2007, 04:25 PM

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4 pages and no progress. Awesome.

The tires have grown, the TBI is on its way, I'm trying to find axles, and I've injured myself. Sounds like progress to me

bbaCJ8 · 08-14-2007, 04:26 PM

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nice double post, old man homosexual billy bad ass wannabe

Nice face.

Hypnotik Robot · 08-14-2007, 05:02 PM

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Nice face.

Burn!

xj_man_646 · 08-15-2007, 12:57 PM

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Burn!

not really. he was secretly complimenting me...because i am so awesome.

bbaCJ8 · 08-15-2007, 04:05 PM

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not really. he was secretly complimenting me...because i am so awesome.

Yeah, and I also finished building the Jeep last night, thanks to tons of welding and fabricating help from Jason Dietz.

Timmay · 08-15-2007, 04:11 PM

Nemesiszx2 · 08-15-2007, 04:15 PM

so when I get all my parts and pieces ordered and on the way can I buy you a plane ticket and fly you down here to help....I don't have a crew down here to help me with things like I did in Jays shop...and my skills are way behind....plus I have extra vicodin for the back

bbaCJ8 · 08-15-2007, 04:28 PM

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so when I get all my parts and pieces ordered and on the way can I buy you a plane ticket and fly you down here to help....I don't have a crew down here to help me with things like I did in Jays shop...and my skills are way behind....plus I have extra vicodin for the back

I live in Highland again, so negative on the plane ticket....but yeah, I'll help. A few bucks here and there will help me pay off the welder and tube bender

My back feels quite a bit better today. The doc said it should be quite a bit better in 2-5 days, and so far he's right....but that may be the painkillers talking.

Thomas M · 08-15-2007, 09:51 PM

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And I fukked up my back doing it. I feel old.

Oh thank gawd. When I first read that I thought you said you fukked up the back of the scrambler, like the rear quarter (pic of the rear tire right above it) and I was about to get pissed.

Oh....yeah my bad, I hope your back is feeling better soon.....

bbaCJ8 · 08-15-2007, 09:53 PM

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Oh thank gawd. When I first read that I thought you said you fukked up the back of the scrambler, like the rear quarter (pic of the rear tire right above it) and I was about to get pissed.

Oh....yeah my bad, I hope your back is feeling better soon.....

Nah, the Jeep is fine. The even if I had messed up the quarter they're gonna be covered with armor before it's done anyway.
My back is getting better surprisingly quickly too, so that's nice.

bbaCJ8 · 09-11-2007, 10:41 PM

Rut roh shaggy

xj_man_646 · 09-11-2007, 11:09 PM

is that a dana 28? what an upgrade

SCRMBLD should hold up pretty good with that in there...

bbaCJ8 · 09-11-2007, 11:10 PM

Not just a Dana28.....a TTB Dana 28.

The D35 for the rear should be coming home about the same time. 2 of em actually.

XJ Fanatic · 09-11-2007, 11:13 PM

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You guys are weak. I pulled .008 out of my pinion preload at camp and it's in spec now. No, I didn't measure them at all. Me and Brian did the flick-the-shim test and determined the thickness that way.

That being said, the axle is sitting on stands right now (im in the shop) and the backlash reads at .005 with 23 inch lbs of pinion preload. I don't know how the fukk I did that after 6 beers in the dark, laying in the dirt, next to a raging bonfire. I bolted the cover back on, retorqued the pinion nut, and i'm going to keep running it once I fix the bushing.

It's a tractor Sean. They run regardless. James' isn't a DD anymore so who the fukk cares if something breaks due to time and money constraints. Nothing wrong with trying to run it and realizing you just need to do it over the right way. Sh11ttttt I say that like it's happened to me before or something.

That was just the old brian pinion shim eye, i actually did that with my d44 too the first time just see what was going on and havent touched it since.

Sean i hate you cuz now you re sparked my love of scramblers

bbaCJ8 · 09-11-2007, 11:16 PM

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Sean i hate you cuz now you re sparked my love of scramblers

Just give it a few months

myjeepsbigger · 09-12-2007, 09:40 AM

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Rut roh shaggy

AWWWW YEEAAAAHHH!!!

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bbaCJ8 old and boring Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: At the sh1tty end of Michigan Posts: 28,270	I had a little free time last night so I figured I'd see what my spare 35s look like on it. The front wheels don't clear the hubs, but you get the idea: Here's what the final width will be with an SRW60, H2s, and 14.5 wide tires. Not too shabby. The actual tires will be 6" taller and stick another 2" inward, but still a decent visual: And I fukked up my back doing it. I feel old. __________________ Dogs have the right idea: if you can't chew it, play with it, or hump it......piss on it and walk away.

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Nemesiszx2 Trail Guide Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kenai Alaska Posts: 184	so when I get all my parts and pieces ordered and on the way can I buy you a plane ticket and fly you down here to help....I don't have a crew down here to help me with things like I did in Jays shop...and my skills are way behind....plus I have extra vicodin for the back

09-11-2007, 10:41 PM	#135
bbaCJ8 old and boring Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: At the sh1tty end of Michigan Posts: 28,270	Rut roh shaggy __________________ Dogs have the right idea: if you can't chew it, play with it, or hump it......piss on it and walk away.

09-11-2007, 11:10 PM	#137
bbaCJ8 old and boring Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: At the sh1tty end of Michigan Posts: 28,270	Not just a Dana28.....a TTB Dana 28. The D35 for the rear should be coming home about the same time. 2 of em actually. __________________ Dogs have the right idea: if you can't chew it, play with it, or hump it......piss on it and walk away.