Project Scrambled - Page 53

Aidan · 12-13-2009, 06:26 PM

Oh, too bad. I was hoping to see some good ideas. I don't like any aftermarket bumpers for the CTD, all way too huge. I want a winch mounted nice and clean inside like on a Power Wagon, but I don't think its possible.

Thanks Anyway!

bbaCJ8 · 12-13-2009, 06:30 PM

Check out the diesel PowerWagon that Skunkwerks built. The 12k winch on that stuck partway through the stock bumper.....not much space to work with with the intercooler and all that crap in there. Why not just do a multi-mount so the winch doesn't get trashed being in the front of your daily driver?

Wally · 12-13-2009, 07:04 PM

of course you have stacks in the bed of your cummins.... you fawking redneck

bbaCJ8 · 12-13-2009, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Wally

of course you have stacks in the bed of your cummins.... you fawking redneck

It's actually my best friend's truck but the shoe still fits. I may get one come spring and it may also get stacks, I don't know.

6DoF · 12-13-2009, 07:32 PM

now i call that motivational progress!

VTJeepCJ84 · 12-13-2009, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by myjeepsbigger

Steveo, is your rig done YET????

Lol, no

. It's still sitting in need of it's new shock mounts to be finished among other things. I decided to lower the whole thing about an inch. I'm finally finishing up other projects on the house, but the big thing right now is money. This is the only thing I've got for it recently. Oil filter relocation block that should give me more clearance for my front suspension.

6DoF · 12-13-2009, 08:34 PM

ooooo ... shshiiney

HULK · 12-13-2009, 08:43 PM

Bulltear makes rad stuff. MC is a super nice guy too. Cant say enough good things about him. Get that thing done!

VTJeepCJ84 · 12-14-2009, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by HULK

Bulltear makes rad stuff. MC is a super nice guy too. Cant say enough good things about him. Get that thing done!

Thats the only thing I've got from him so far, but I'm very impressed so far. There are some other goodies that I would like to get from him before too long.

bbaCJ8 · 02-09-2010, 10:28 PM

So I really haven't done much of anything productive on this thing for a while but I'm plugging away here and there. I'm kinda burnt out and frustrated at this point cuz there's just so damn much left to do. I've been going out and having a TON of much-needed fun so far this year so the Jeep's kinda been on the backburner.

The latest work has been on the rear wheelwells and I'm having a tough time finding something I like. I pushed the rear axle back a bit and without having to add sheetmetal and make things a general PITA the wheelwells are gonna be pretty big. Making them look good has proven to be tougher than I expected. There'll be a tube welded in to form the wheelwell and give it its shape and strength. Here's what I've come up with so far:
First idea using 1.5" tube:

I think it looks like crap so I set it aside and stared at it a bunch trying to come up with better ideas.

The only other decent idea I came up with was 1.75" tube for the wider radius, using a simpler shape more like the factory wheelwell:

Thoughts? I think it looks decent. Having the front and rear portions at less steep angles might look a little better but would require adding sheetmetal to the front and making things a pain. Any other ideas are welcome.

I've also been bitten by the wheeling bug again and have gone 4 times already this year, 3 times with my daily driver truck. Here are some pics from those runs just for the hell of it:

Even in snow with bald 35s, D44=fail

Although I may or may not have had the steering cranked while hammering on it in 4 low with a 360 providing power, and a few too many beers providing stupidity

A buddy's lifted IFS 1/2 ton, bigger fail:

Another trip I just rode along for:

Good times

On that note, since the Scrambler is so far off and I love wheeling so much I've had an idea lately. My friends and I go on lots of small wheeling trips and go to local mud bogs 2-3 times a month all summer. It's a blast but it'd be better if I weren't always a spectator. I'm about to buy a new DD/tow rig and not sure if I can get much of anything for my current truck. I'm seriously considering building a bigger suspension for it, throwing some welded 1 tons under it, borrowing the 41s off the Scrambler, and having a trailrig to enjoy while I take my time finishing the Jeep. I could get it done in a month or so for under $4k.....pretty tempting. I shouldn't spend the money but it'd be awesome to have a rig to enjoy in the meantime.

freerider15 · 02-09-2010, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bbaCJ8

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More pics of girl

awheelterd · 02-09-2010, 10:37 PM

i vote option B hands down. the 1.5 has too many bends and looks cluttered. now if you could find someone with a tube roller, now that would be

bbaCJ8 · 02-09-2010, 10:37 PM

And then some better pics from when I rolled it back outside a couple weeks ago:

Krazy · 02-09-2010, 10:39 PM

option b is much better on the rear fenders

bbaCJ8 · 02-09-2010, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by freerider15

More pics of girl

on the right

Happy now?

Jeepin Jason · 02-09-2010, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bbaCJ8

The only other decent idea I came up with was 1.75" tube for the wider radius, using a simpler shape more like the factory wheelwell:

Thoughts? I think it looks decent. Having the front and rear portions at less steep angles might look a little better but would require adding sheetmetal to the front and making things a pain. Any other ideas are welcome.

I like it. A lot better than the multi-bend first version.

freerider15 · 02-09-2010, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bbaCJ8

on the right

Happy now?

Lookin great Sean!

Tried bending my first piece of tube tonight...well lets just say I forgot about marking the die where the bend starts and the 8' of tubing I used ending up about 6" to wide

bbaCJ8 · 02-09-2010, 11:24 PM

Yeah it definitely takes some practice to get the hang of tube bending! The great thing about steel though, you can always add or remove some to get it to the size and shape you want.

myjeepsbigger · 02-09-2010, 11:30 PM

For gawd's sake, just quit crying and finish the damn jeep. You're not gonna be happy until it's done. Anything else is gonna be a waste of time and money that could have been invested in the 8.

freerider15 · 02-09-2010, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bbaCJ8

Yeah it definitely takes some practice to get the hang of tube bending! The great thing about steel though, you can always add or remove some to get it to the size and shape you want.

Yeah, i'm not to pissed since I know I'll be able to hack that peice up and use the smaller peices somewhere else.

Any projected date ya plan on having this beast done?

bbaCJ8 · 02-10-2010, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by myjeepsbigger

For gawd's sake, just quit crying and finish the damn jeep. You're not gonna be happy until it's done. Anything else is gonna be a waste of time and money that could have been invested in the 8.

No whining, just frustration resulting in lack of motivation. It comes down to immediate gratification(simple 1 ton swap on the Dodge) versus waiting till I finish the Scrambler. It make sense pretty much everywhere but financially.

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Originally Posted by freerider15

Yeah, i'm not to pissed since I know I'll be able to hack that peice up and use the smaller peices somewhere else.

Any projected date ya plan on having this beast done?

Or depending what the piece is you could just cut some out of the center, sleeve it, and weld it back together since you already got the bends and stuff right.

I've had lots of projected dates for this project but it's changed a lot obviously. Late last year I was planning to bust asss and get it done by Memorial Day 2010 but since I haven't done jack to it in the past 2 months that's not gonna happen. At this point I don't really care when cuz I've been having so much fun doing other stuff instead of locked in the garage by myself. I should get it done this summer sometime but I know that once the weather gets nice again I'll be out and about even more than I am now. I'm hoping to buy a house later this year too, so it may even get pushed back till after that depending on how I allot my time and money.....another reason why having a toy in the meantime might be nice. I should get it done and enjoy it before the house thing, but I've already pushed that back a lot too. Too many options, and not enough of them get me in a completed Scrambler anytime soon.

awheelterd · 02-10-2010, 12:17 AM

just let me know when you finally get 100% burnt out on it. ill be up there within the month with a flat bed and a handfull of benjis.

bbaCJ8 · 02-10-2010, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by awheelterd

just let me know when you finally get 100% burnt out on it. ill be up there within the month with a flat bed and a handfull of benjis.

For the right price everything is for sale

Honestly, if someone offered me near what I have into it as far as parts and materials I'd probably sell it. Then I'd buy a finished or near finished simpler and cheaper project and add my own touches to it, just to get out wheeling sooner and get back a bunch of the money I've blown on the project. I've already proven to myself what I'm capable of, now I wanna wheel and have more money to put into more important stuff!!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not giving up on it by any means, but I'd also entertain the idea of "simplifying" things if the opportunity arose.

XJRIDE · 02-10-2010, 07:23 AM

trimming those rear fenders more?

mcamish01 · 02-10-2010, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by myjeepsbigger

For gawd's sake, just quit crying and finish the damn jeep. You're not gonna be happy until it's done. Anything else is gonna be a waste of time and money that could have been invested in the 8.

Agreed. Sounds like your motivation is lacking; build another rig and it will seriously be lacking and then you'll just end up with a Ram wheeling rig cobbled together from parts off the CJ and an almost finished CJ that you'll never get 2/3 of your investment back out of. Buckle down get that Jeep done!

Edit: And I like the second option for the rear wheelwells, unless you can find someone with a tube roller

fatwreck · 02-10-2010, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mcamish01

Agreed. Sounds like your motivation is lacking; build another rig and it will seriously be lacking and then you'll just end up with a Ram wheeling rig cobbled together from parts off the CJ and an almost finished CJ that you'll never get 2/3 of your investment back out of. Buckle down get that Jeep done!

Edit: And I like the second option for the rear wheelwells, unless you can find someone with a tube roller

x2 on all accounts.

Mills89YJ · 02-10-2010, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bbaCJ8

And then some better pics from when I rolled it back outside a couple weeks ago:

awheelterd · 02-10-2010, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by awheelterd

i vote option B hands down. the 1.5 has too many bends and looks cluttered. now if you could find someone with a tube roller, now that would be

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcamish01

Edit: And I like the second option for the rear wheelwells, unless you can find someone with a tube roller

Hypnotik Robot · 02-10-2010, 01:45 PM

It is my opinion that only a fool would divert time and resources from their CJ-8 build to swap tons into a Dodge 1500 so that they could go wheeling.

OkLaHoMaTJ · 02-10-2010, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bbaCJ8

For the right price everything is for sale

Honestly, if someone offered me near what I have into it as far as parts and materials I'd probably sell it. Then I'd buy a finished or near finished simpler and cheaper project and add my own touches to it, just to get out wheeling sooner and get back a bunch of the money I've blown on the project. I've already proven to myself what I'm capable of, now I wanna wheel and have more money to put into more important stuff!!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not giving up on it by any means, but I'd also entertain the idea of "simplifying" things if the opportunity arose.

I feel your pain. I'm in the same boat. After building the first Jeep I had it almost seemed like it would be easier to buy someones rig that was already built and let them loose 1/2 to 2/3 of their initial investment building it. I bought my 1995 YJ for $8k and put another $8k (receipts) into it and it still had 1/2 ton axles and a stock motor. That's why I'm to the point that I'll strip my rig and have a shop help me with the build. I really want to enjoy wheeling my Jeep this spring/summer/fall rather then slaving away in the garage building it by myself. I have VERY little into my current Jeep so having someone else help wont be as big of an issue as it would with some Jeep that I owed $7-10k to the bank.

myjeepsbigger · 02-10-2010, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by awheelterd

just let me know when you finally get 100% burnt out on it. ill be up there within the month with a flat bed and a handfull of benjis.

I'm much closer to MI than you, I'll race you up there.....

awheelterd · 02-10-2010, 03:03 PM

bbaCJ8 · 02-10-2010, 04:37 PM

Feel free to start a bidding war

For the right price I'll even transport it to either of you so no racing is required.

myjeepsbigger · 02-10-2010, 04:48 PM

Psssh. I'm just blowing smoke. I have too many projects on the docket already.

awheelterd · 02-10-2010, 05:04 PM

gimme another year an a half an i might be able to throw some money at you. good thing you still wont be done

12-13-2009, 06:30 PM	#1822
bbaCJ8 old and boring Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: At the sh1tty end of Michigan Posts: 28,270	Check out the diesel PowerWagon that Skunkwerks built. The 12k winch on that stuck partway through the stock bumper.....not much space to work with with the intercooler and all that crap in there. Why not just do a multi-mount so the winch doesn't get trashed being in the front of your daily driver? __________________ Dogs have the right idea: if you can't chew it, play with it, or hump it......piss on it and walk away.

12-13-2009, 07:04 PM	#1823
Wally 6.2mi from Billings Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Junction, CO Posts: 2,521	of course you have stacks in the bed of your cummins.... you fawking redneck __________________ Old Rig - 1 Ton YJ on 40's New Rig - 1 ton 6.0L TJ on 40's Wife's Rig - 1/2 ton YJ on 37's 2002 F350 7.3L Power Stroke CC LB 6sp SRW 4x4 Tow Rig

12-13-2009, 08:43 PM	#1828
HULK Trail Guide Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Minnesota Posts: 636	Bulltear makes rad stuff. MC is a super nice guy too. Cant say enough good things about him. Get that thing done! __________________ My jeep is green

02-09-2010, 10:28 PM	#1830
bbaCJ8 old and boring Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: At the sh1tty end of Michigan Posts: 28,270	So I really haven't done much of anything productive on this thing for a while but I'm plugging away here and there. I'm kinda burnt out and frustrated at this point cuz there's just so damn much left to do. I've been going out and having a TON of much-needed fun so far this year so the Jeep's kinda been on the backburner. The latest work has been on the rear wheelwells and I'm having a tough time finding something I like. I pushed the rear axle back a bit and without having to add sheetmetal and make things a general PITA the wheelwells are gonna be pretty big. Making them look good has proven to be tougher than I expected. There'll be a tube welded in to form the wheelwell and give it its shape and strength. Here's what I've come up with so far: First idea using 1.5" tube: I think it looks like crap so I set it aside and stared at it a bunch trying to come up with better ideas. The only other decent idea I came up with was 1.75" tube for the wider radius, using a simpler shape more like the factory wheelwell: Thoughts? I think it looks decent. Having the front and rear portions at less steep angles might look a little better but would require adding sheetmetal to the front and making things a pain. Any other ideas are welcome. I've also been bitten by the wheeling bug again and have gone 4 times already this year, 3 times with my daily driver truck. Here are some pics from those runs just for the hell of it: Even in snow with bald 35s, D44=fail Although I may or may not have had the steering cranked while hammering on it in 4 low with a 360 providing power, and a few too many beers providing stupidity A buddy's lifted IFS 1/2 ton, bigger fail: Another trip I just rode along for: Good times On that note, since the Scrambler is so far off and I love wheeling so much I've had an idea lately. My friends and I go on lots of small wheeling trips and go to local mud bogs 2-3 times a month all summer. It's a blast but it'd be better if I weren't always a spectator. I'm about to buy a new DD/tow rig and not sure if I can get much of anything for my current truck. I'm seriously considering building a bigger suspension for it, throwing some welded 1 tons under it, borrowing the 41s off the Scrambler, and having a trailrig to enjoy while I take my time finishing the Jeep. I could get it done in a month or so for under $4k.....pretty tempting. I shouldn't spend the money but it'd be awesome to have a rig to enjoy in the meantime. __________________ Dogs have the right idea: if you can't chew it, play with it, or hump it......piss on it and walk away.

02-09-2010, 10:37 PM	#1833
bbaCJ8 old and boring Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: At the sh1tty end of Michigan Posts: 28,270	And then some better pics from when I rolled it back outside a couple weeks ago: __________________ Dogs have the right idea: if you can't chew it, play with it, or hump it......piss on it and walk away.

02-09-2010, 10:39 PM	#1834
Krazy kinda suprised Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saugerties, New York Posts: 7,671	option b is much better on the rear fenders __________________ 89 YJ 350 SBC SM465 NP205 60/14bff 2006 Ram 1500 TRX4...with a 6 speed In Dash RamPuter

02-09-2010, 11:24 PM	#1838
bbaCJ8 old and boring Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: At the sh1tty end of Michigan Posts: 28,270	Yeah it definitely takes some practice to get the hang of tube bending! The great thing about steel though, you can always add or remove some to get it to the size and shape you want. __________________ Dogs have the right idea: if you can't chew it, play with it, or hump it......piss on it and walk away.

02-09-2010, 11:30 PM	#1839
myjeepsbigger ~ Jitterbug ~ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MyJeepsLand, IL Posts: 6,353	For gawd's sake, just quit crying and finish the damn jeep. You're not gonna be happy until it's done. Anything else is gonna be a waste of time and money that could have been invested in the 8. __________________ Live now, Pay later.

02-10-2010, 07:23 AM	#1844
XJRIDE Trail Guide Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: East Lyme CT Posts: 625	trimming those rear fenders more? __________________ GET R' DONE 91 XJ Solid 60's F&R, EFI 302, Caged, 4-linked, 39" rockers, coiled at all 4 and beat 04 Dodge CTD, FASS 150, Edge Juice w/Attitude stacked w/ Van Aaken, Arson 3 CP3, AFE Intake, 6" Aussie Stacks, Air lift bags

02-10-2010, 04:37 PM	#1853
bbaCJ8 old and boring Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: At the sh1tty end of Michigan Posts: 28,270	Feel free to start a bidding war For the right price I'll even transport it to either of you so no racing is required. __________________ Dogs have the right idea: if you can't chew it, play with it, or hump it......piss on it and walk away.

02-10-2010, 04:48 PM	#1854
myjeepsbigger ~ Jitterbug ~ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MyJeepsLand, IL Posts: 6,353	Psssh. I'm just blowing smoke. I have too many projects on the docket already. __________________ Live now, Pay later.